I'd go for the Civic, obviously it's a bit bigger than the Ibiza (more comparable to a Leon), but look after it, get it serviced when needed, and it will look after you & run sweetly for years to come. Honda all day any day, you also get a car that’s more practical and is capable of comfortable motorway cruising.
Honda Civic VII Hatchback 5D: 2001 - 2006 Hatchback Power: from 90 to 160 Hp | Dimensions: 4285 x 1712 x 1495 mm: Honda Civic VII Hatchback: 2001 - 2005 Hatchback Power: from 90 to 110 Hp | Dimensions: 4140 x 1695 x 1440 mm: Honda Civic VII Sedan: 2001 - 2006 Sedan Power: from 90 to 110 Hp | Dimensions: 4458 x 1715 x 1440 mm: Honda Civic VI Wagon
We usually get them with different engines and transmissions (less powerful engines) coz petrol is way more expensive back home. The Honda Civic now positions itself as more exclusive than the Corolla, so it sells at a higher price point. It competes with the Mazda3. WilburIsNotMyName • 4 yr. ago.
The Honda Civic is a better choice when it comes to fuel economy. By specification Honda Civic consumes 0.2 litres less fuel per 100 km than the Seat Leon, which means that by driving the Honda Civic over 15,000 km in a year you can save 30 litres of fuel. By comparing actual fuel consumption based on user reports, Honda Civic consumes 0.6
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VJxq3c. The SEAT Leon Cupra is arguably the bargain performance hatchback of the moment. It shares many components with the brilliant Volkswagen Golf R, only omitting the four-wheel-drive system, an extra 20hp and around £3,000 extra cost. If it’s sharpness and aggression you’re after, however, the new Honda Civic Type R surely deserves your attention. This wild-looking hatchback has performance to match its outlandish style, and is a worthy contender for the hot hatch crown. On paper though, the SEAT and the Honda are surprisingly closely matched. So which is the car for you? If you’ve already fallen for either, pop either the Honda Civic Type R or the SEAT Leon Cupra into our car configurator to see how much carwow could help you save. Styling SEAT and Honda couldn’t have taken more different approaches to styling. The Leon relies on simple details, making the most of the sharp, attractive lines of the regular car. If anything, it’s even more subtle than its Volkswagen Golf R cousin. Only when you move towards the more extreme 280 Sub8 version do things start to look more wild. In contrast, the Type R is all about big grilles, outrageous side skirts and downforce-inducing wings and diffusers. It’ll certainly get you noticed, but it might be a level of attention not everyone will be comfortable with… Interior The Civic’s interior upgrades aren’t quite as over the top, but they still clearly hint at the performance on offer. The sports seats (which one or two testers suggested were mounted a touch too high) are trimmed in red fabric, while the sporty aluminium gear knob is close to the steering wheel for quicker gear changes. The wheel itself gains flashes of red leather, and is flat-bottomed, like many sporty cars these days. Like the outside, the Leon’s cabin is a little more grown-up than the Civic (or dull, depending on your point of view). The cabin is well-screwed together but it’s all a little too full of black plastic to look special enough. The one saving grace is the steering wheel, which is lovely to hold. When it comes to the sensible stuff, the Leon has a little more space for rear seat passengers (particularly headroom) but the Civic has a huge boot. However, the Leon is offered in ST estate for those needing more room. Driving Despite their vastly different looks, out on the road, both of these cars are exciting and entertaining in equal measure. The Cupra is praised for its tight body control and responsive chassis while the ride – although firm – is never deemed to be uncomfortable. The Leon’s more advanced suspension setup at the rear suggests it will be the more entertaining drive, but the Civic takes all of these traits and moves each of them up another notch. The grip is described as “enormous” by testers and body control is “exemplary”. The steering is sharp and direct and, even if it is lacking in some feel, it’s still an improvement over the variable-ratio setup the Leon uses. The Honda’s gearchange action is brilliant and adds to the sporty driving experience. The SEAT’s manual is not quite on the same level, but the optional dual-clutch automatic gearbox allows for rapid shifts or automatic operation if needed. Engines Both the Civic and the Leon use turbocharged petrol engines to send their power to the front wheels only. The SEAT is the slower of the two, yet still hits 62mph from rest in seconds (when equipped with the DSG gearbox) before reaching a top speed of 155mph, says it all really. The Civic? Knock another tenth off the 0-62mph time and add 12mph to the top speed… Four-cylinder turbocharged engines aren’t normally the sweetest-sounding of units, but the SEAT and the Honda both provide a suitably naughty soundtrack to match the performance. Value for money Of the two, the SEAT is the cheaper car to buy. Even before the generous discounts SEAT dealers are willing to offer (particularly through our deal checker) the Leon is just under £2,500 cheaper than the Civic. It’s also worth bearing in mind that the top-spec GT version of the Honda – which adds a better stereo, dual-zone climate control and automatic lights – costs a further £2,300. The Leon is claimed to return which is noticeably better than the Civic’s official figure of However, testers have confirmed that, in real world conditions, buyers should expect much closer to low-thirties from both. When it comes to depreciation, both the Honda and the SEAT should hold their value quite well, and you never know – if you decide to hold onto one for a really long time and if their cult status lives on, they may start to creep up in value again… Verdict Both the SEAT Leon Cupra and the Honda Civic Type R are class-leading hot hatches. On balance though, the Civic is faster, more exciting to look at and a little more thrilling to drive. However, you could easily argue a case for the SEAT. Given that it’s a few grand cheaper to buy – and likely to be cheaper to run, too – any deficiencies it gives away to the Honda are due to the lower price. Overall, the Civic wins out for the ultimate hot hatch driving experience. However, if the purchase price is just a little high or you prefer the automatic gearbox and better ride, you won’t be disappointed with the Leon at all. What next? Pop either the Honda Civic Type R or the SEAT Leon Cupra into our car configurator to see how much carwow could help you save. Check out our deals page for more options or, if you’re still struggling to choose what car you’d like, head over to our car chooser.
Compare two cars 2012. - 2015. C - Small family car hatchback, 5 door front Badges Production Vehicle class Body style Wheel drive Safety 2013. - 2016. C - Small family car hatchback, 5 door front Dimensons & Outlines Length Width Height Boot (min) Boot (max) Fuel tank 2012 Honda Civic 2013 Seat Leon © GAMA1 Solutions. Copying & distribution prohibited. Engine Diesel 4 - Inline, 4 valves per cylinder Nat. Asp. Engine Fuel Configuration Aspiration Displacement Power Torque Diesel 4 - Inline, 4 valves per cylinder Turbo Performance (manual gearbox) Gearbox type Vehicle weight Acc. 0-100 Top speed Cons. (urban) Cons. (highway) Cons. (average) CO2 emissions Performance (automatic gearbox) Gearbox type Vehicle weight Acc. 0-100 Top speed Cons. (urban) Cons. (highway) Cons. (average) CO2 emissions Expenses Virtual Adviser's™ opinion Overview Well, these are two pretty similar cars we have here! It's only details that could potentially make the difference. Considering they both belong to the small family car segment and utilize the same 5-door hatchback body style and the front wheel drive system, it all comes up to the specific diesel engine choice they offer. The first one has a Honda-engineered powertrain under the hood, a 4-cylinder, 16-valves 120hp unit, while the other one gets its power and torque from a 4-cylinder, 16-valves 110hp engine designed by Volkswagen. Safety The first thing to look into here would be the results from European New Car Assessment Programme (Euro NCAP) tests performed on the two cars. Good thing is that both vehicles got tested, with the same number of safety stars gained in the process. That aside, let's consider some other aspects which affect safety. Both vehicles belong to the small family car segment, which is generally classifying them somewhere in the middle safety-wise, still it doesn't help us solve our dilemma, does it? Furthermore, if we'd like to consider vehicle mass in this context too, which we definitely should, the Japanese car offers a considerable difference of 10% more metal. Reliability I don't like generalizing things when it comes to reliability, although it does seem that Honda as a brand displays somewhat better results, at least on all of the models level. These are the results of an independent reasearch, while our visitors describe reliability of Honda with an average rating of and models under the Seat badge with out of 5. The same official information place Civic as average reliability-wise, and Leon is more or less at the same apart, owners of different cars powered by the same engine as the Japanese car rank it on average as while the one under the competitor's bonnet gets out of 5. Performance & Fuel economy Both of the cars accelerate exactly the same, so we couldn't put one above the other. Car No. 1 reaches top speed of 200 kilometers per hour, 7km/h more than the other car. When it comes to fuel economy things look pretty much the same for both cars, averaging around liters of fuel per 100 kilometers (83 mpg), in combined cycle. Verdict Honda appears just a bit more reliable, although the difference is truly marginal. The most important thing when deciding between any two vehicles should always be safety, both passive and active. In my opinion, everything taken into account, the Japanese car offers significantly better overall protection, taking the lead here. When it comes to performance, both vehicles provide similar experience, so I wouldn't point any of them out. the Spanish car still consumps less fuel, which needs to be taken into consideration. It's really tough to make a final decision here, but if I'd need to, I'd say Honda. In any case that's my personal view, built upon all the data available to me. What should decide here though is the way you feel about the two vehicles, and I hope you'll find my guidelines useful in the process. Also, you could use the oportunity to find out which car, everything taken into account, would be the perfect choice for you in the eyes of the virtual adviser™, among more than different ones in our database. Check a car by its VIN number
Compare two cars 2013. - 2016. C - Small family car hatchback, 5 door front Badges Production Vehicle class Body style Wheel drive Safety 2012. - 2015. C - Small family car hatchback, 5 door front Dimensons & Outlines Length Width Height Boot (min) Boot (max) Fuel tank 2013 Seat Leon 2012 Honda Civic © GAMA1 Solutions. Copying & distribution prohibited. Engine Petrol 4 - Inline, 2 valves per cylinder Turbo Engine Fuel Configuration Aspiration Displacement Power Torque Petrol 4 - Inline, 4 valves per cylinder Nat. Asp. Performance (manual gearbox) Gearbox type Vehicle weight Acc. 0-100 Top speed Cons. (urban) Cons. (highway) Cons. (average) CO2 emissions Performance (automatic gearbox) Gearbox type Vehicle weight Acc. 0-100 Top speed Cons. (urban) Cons. (highway) Cons. (average) CO2 emissions Expenses Virtual Adviser's™ opinion Overview Well, these are two pretty similar cars we have here! It's only details that could potentially make the difference. Considering they both belong to the small family car segment and utilize the same 5-door hatchback body style and the front wheel drive system, it all comes up to the specific petrol engine choice they offer. The first one has a Volkswagen-engineered powertrain under the hood, a 4-cylinder, 8-valves 110hp unit, while the other one gets its power and torque from a 4-cylinder, 16-valves 100hp engine designed by Honda. Safety The first thing to look into here would be the results from European New Car Assessment Programme (Euro NCAP) tests performed on the two cars. Good thing is that both vehicles got tested, with the same number of safety stars gained in the process. That aside, let's consider some other aspects which affect safety. Both vehicles belong to the small family car segment, which is generally classifying them somewhere in the middle safety-wise, but that fact doesn't break the tie between the two cars. On the other hand, taking kerb weight as an important factor into account, the Japanese car offers a marginal difference of 5% more metal. Reliability I don't like generalizing things when it comes to reliability, although it does seem that Honda as a brand displays somewhat better results, at least on all of the models level. That's the official data, while our visitors describe reliability of Seat with an average rating of and models under the Honda badge with out of 5. Independent research findings rank Leon as average reliability-wise, and Civic is more or less at the same should definitely mention that owners of cars with the same powertrain as the Spanish car rank it on average as while the one under the competitor's bonnet gets out of 5. Performance & Fuel economy Seat is way more agile, reaching 100km/h in seconds less than its competitor. In addition to that it accelerates all the way to 191 kilometers per hour, 4km/h more than the other car. When it comes to fuel economy things look pretty much the same for both cars, averaging around liters of fuel per 100 kilometers (55 mpg), in combined cycle. Verdict Honda is apparently more reliable, not too much, but just enough. The most important thing when deciding between any two vehicles should always be safety, both passive and active. In my opinion, everything taken into account, the Japanese car offers slightly better overall protection and takes the lead. From there things take a different direction, with Seat outracing its opponent in any situation possible, making it better choice for boy racers. To make things even better, it consumps less fuel! I believe that, when we take all into account, we have only one winner here - the Seat. Anyway, that's the most objective conclusion I could've came up with and it's based solely on the information found on this website. Aspects such as design, practicality, brand value and driving experience are there for you to measure them out. Also, you could use the oportunity to find out which car, everything taken into account, would be the perfect choice for you in the eyes of the virtual adviser™, out of vehicles we currently have in our database. Check a car by its VIN number
You'll haveread a lot about Cuprarecently. SEAT's just-launched sub brand is the culmination of a journey it commenced years ago; one probably dreamt up in Lower Saxony, where the marketing concept of 'Latin flair' is almost as convenient as 'English pomp' or 'Germanic superiority'. Under the new plan, all the latent sportiness that Martorell failed to introduce into the Alhambra or the Toledo or the Exeo or the Altea will now be injected into a new badge; one that still flummoxes Google image search, let alone the man on the course, that's by-the-by, because (for now) the Leon Cupra - despite being the model most associated with the name - has, for reasons best known to SEAT, nothing to do with brand Cupra. Probably that's a good thing: the long-running hot hatch already possesses heritage and credibility, and doesn't need a superfluous layer of identity plastered on top. So while the deliberately expensive R version serves as a bellwetherfor what's coming round the corner, it isn't necessarily beholden to it (no matter what subliminal messages are being imparted by its copper colour scheme).Its maker would probably prefer its sold-out headliner to be regarded simply as a Leon, in the hope that it enjoys the generosity of spirit that greeted theGolf GTI Clubsport S, a limited-edition run-out model with the same enhanced output and the same single axle to drive it through. Needless to say the five-door R has not had its rear seats deleted nor its weight reduced - but it does get the same modified camber angles at the front, bigger brakes, revamped steering and a retuned exhaust system, as well as a smattering of carbon fibre on a very mildly augmented Cupra body that the 24 cars coming to the UK are already sold, it's hardly worth passing comment on the desirability of the styling revisions. If there were a 25th customer in two minds about the car, we might point out that the copper highlights are likely to be divisive - then again, we've brought along a Honda Civic Type R to test it against, which is rather like bringing a Jackson Pollock canvas to a gun fight. The GT version starts at ÂŁ32,995 (ÂŁ2k cheaper than the Cupra R) and it delivers 10hp more from its VTEC Turbo unit. It also looks like it looks, which you're either going to put up with or internally veto with a inside though, and the objective distance between the pair narrows significantly. Not so very long ago, anything heralding from the VW Group could expect to romp away from a Honda on the pleasantness and usability alone, but the FK8 generation of Civic is a different kettle of fish. Where the car was once overly keen to be appear nonconformist, the latest dashboard is as buttoned-down as a Marks and Spencer shirt collar - and while that means you're unlikely to spend long marvelling at it, it does rather beat Martorell at its own game by being neat and tidy and very well clincher though is the fact that in the Type R, you sit what feels like about a foot lower on far superior (and characteristically red) sport seats. As nice as the Cupra's Alcantara steering wheel is - and no matter how preferable it's infotainment system might be - they're no match for the allure of decent driving position. It's also worth mentioning that the Civic feels about a foot wider (it's actually about 60mm broader than the Leon) which, proportionally speaking, is to the car's advantage. Drive them back to back, and the Leon seems like an overgrown supermini compared to its lower, larger no question the Type R makes a dynamic virtue of its greater size, either. The car's footprint - and the corresponding sense of stability - seems oversized for a hatchback. It's sublimely well marshalled, too. Even in Comfort mode the Civic is unapologetically firm at low speeds, yet the stiffness is that lovely sort which seems to live mostly in the structure, freeing up the adaptive dampers to get on with the business of endlessly kneading the 20-inch wheels into the road surface. The resulting suppleness is too shallow to be called infallible in the UK, but for as long as it works, it makes the car's tacked-down poise seem wonderfully the Leon? Well, it does nothing quite so well. It is a measure of the Type R's quality that the Cupra's own Comfort setting - typically thought a decent compromise in the standard model - feels almost blancmange-like compared to the super-stern Honda. Of course you might be willing to sacrifice some vertical stiffness if there was a pay off in ride quality, but the SEAT never quite manages to convince you that its lubberly softness is actually delivering a greater level of bump absorption. For the most part, its own adaptive damping just feels a notch less performance though, well lives up to the Cupra R billing. Despite being the best part of 100kg heavier than the Clubsport S, the end result is much the same: with minimal fuss or squirm in the steering wheel, the all-singing iteration of the endlessly re-used EA888 motor has the Leon charging likeably from the blocks. SEAT claims seconds to 62mph - easily believable, and an exact match for the Type R's time - nevertheless, it is the in-gear acceleration which really shows off the unit's flexibility. Low crank speeds hold no fear for the Cupra driver no matter which drive mode you're in; its 280lb ft of peak torque is produced virtually without lag and seems endlessly accessible, and - in the dry at least, with judicious use - seldom threatens to overwhelm the standard-fit electronic locking diff Civic meanwhile has 295lb ft at its disposal and is virtually the same weight as the Leon, but despite having a turbocharger twinned with the VTEC system for a generation now, its own engine is just not quite as prolific when asked to pull from so close to idle. The Cupra's comparative enthusiasm only serves to highlight the softness of its throttle response, and while it isn't hesitant in the old school Type R mould (there's certainly no 'wait, wait - go!' here), it just doesn't surge forward quite as nimbly as the SEAT, and nor does it attempt a variation on its rival's baritone warble, it does instead is go and sound exactly like you might expect a high-revving forced-induction Honda engine to; one that builds progressively from any initial delay to gallop through its mid range and end in a sprint somewhere near 7,000rpm. Credit where it's due, the EA888 is hardly any less compelling at between 5,800-6,500rpm - where the R's advantage over other Cupra-badged cars makes its presence felt - but thanks to a familiar weightlessness in the clutch and gear shift, it doesn't share the precision and tactility of Honda's six-speed manual transmission nor the gratifyingly mechanical sensation of interacting with this latter respect - specifically the business of nailing the physical connection between driver, car and road surface - there's clear daylight between the two. The Type R's predecessor, the FK2, was self-limited not by a lack of ability, but because it could be driven everywhere at Mach 2 without ruffling so much as an eyebrow. In its follow-up, almost to a fault, you now relish every second; not because you go noticeably quicker, but because Honda has successfully cleaved away at the feeling of detachment with meticulously honed controls and the exacting, talkative chassis to say the FK8 turns all-of-a-piece is something of an understatement; it slays corners with its flatness and tenacity and slippy-diff willingness to put its power down. The R+ mode is a little too hyperactive for most B-roads, but in Sport you get just the right simmering mix of tautness, compliance, steering response and back-axle mobility. The R is better in Sport, too (the Cupra setting being too brittle) and easily proficient enough to carry foolhardy amounts of speed through most bends. Its obvious strengths feel familiar and well chosen: directness and directional stability being at a premium, and present in sufficient quantities to make the car a generally satisfying foil for the biggest output it's ever been while the Leon is good enough to let you drive fast, the Type R makes you want to drive fast precisely because it is so good. SEAT hasn't zeroed-in its R model with nearly the same stringency. The Honda gets better across the board as you try harder; the Cupra gamely ups its roll resistance, but doesn't ultimately possess the rigorous steering feel needed to make the advantage meaningful nor the adjustability to make it thrilling. It tends to feel exactly as it is: the most powerful version of an upstanding, affable and unremarkable hot hatch. The Civic feels different. It could hardly be anymore rounded if it were a BB pellet. It feels like it's in the league above. Now if only it looked that way, too...SPECIFICATION - HONDA CIVIC TYPE REngine: 1,996cc, turbocharged 4-cylTransmission: 6-speed manual, front-wheel drivePower (hp): 320@6,500rpmTorque (lb ft): 295@2,500-4,500rpm0-62mph: speed: 169mphWeight: 1,451kg (with fluids and driver)MPG: (NEDC combined)CO2: 176g/kmPrice: ÂŁ30,995 (ÂŁ32,995 for GT version)SPECIFICATION - SEAT LEON CUPRA REngine: 1,984cc, 4-cylinder turbochargedTransmission: 6-speed manual, front-wheel drivePower (hp): 310@5,800-6,500rpmTorque (lb ft): 280@1,800-5,700rpm0-62mph: speed: 155mphWeight: 1,453kgMPG: (NEDC combined)CO2: 170g/kmPrice: ÂŁ34,995
#1 Out of the two, I really can't decide with a budget of ÂŁ I'm not overly concerned on the mileage as I won't be doing much myself, so something at 90k for instance wouldn't concern me as long as it's been well cared for. Some of the pre-facelift EP3's seem like really good value now at around ÂŁ and ÂŁ would probably see a facelift model. On the other hand, I've owned a DC2 before and quite fancy something a little more civilised so the Cupra R seems like a good alternative. I think ÂŁ would be pushing it for a good 2004 model though and especially one that's been remapped? Not too sure on how the pre-facelift models cope remapped given they are 210bhp standard compared with 225bhp face-lifted? Both these cars aren't a given and I'm even considering an e46 330i... any help or ideas? #2 Personally I prefer LCR over CTR. Sure, probably not as much 'fun' as the CTR but when you get bored you can tune it up a bit and love it some more. I also think the EP3 looks pretty dated now, I've always loved the look of LCR's though. #3 Out of the three the BMW will be more civilised and ofc RWD although hardly a sports car. I personally don't like turbo'd cars (maybe new ones are far better) so that would rule out the Cupra for me. I'd have to test drive them as on paper they offer similar performance but the way they feel/ride/look only you can decide. #4 The Seat has a nicer interior and more refined ride than the Civic, but isn't up to the Honda dynamically. I was considering a Cupra R before I bought the Civic, but despite being plenty quick enough it's not as much fun to drive as I'd hoped. If i was doing regular, long journeys then the longer gearing and refinement of the Cupra would have swung it. #5 CTR is more fun. Leon has boost and is more tunable. Both will be cheaper to run than a 330i. Drive them and decide #6 Civic has better seats, is more fun and more abusable. Leon a good bit softer and comfier with better steering. I preferred my CTR to my wife's Cupra. #7 I'd forget them choices and get one of these bad boys I've owned this for 4 Years now and it's the most fun i've ever had behind the wheel, only problem is they are rare (only about 350 were imported into the country) so there's not much to choose from, but the sound the engine makes is phenominal, listen to this vid of one with a unicorse replica exhaust #8 I'd forget them choices and get one of these bad boys I've owned this for 4 Years now and it's the most fun i've ever had behind the wheel, only problem is they are rare (only about 350 were imported into the country) so there's not much to choose from, but the sound the engine makes is phenominal, listen to this vid of one with a unicorse replica exhaust Lovely car, ÂŁ490 tax though might be a put off #9 Those little algae (autocorrect for alfas apparently) are brilliant - drove one when they were fairly new, took it out for ten minutes and ended up away for over an hour. Great noise, handles well enough (ignore top gear style views I had no problem) and I actually remember it riding quite well too. Being an Alfa it would be a pain in the arse to DIY when something goes wrong, plus are they even that cheap? I like both the civic and cupra R but tbh don't think I would buy either. If I could find a decent 330ci for your money that's what I would buy or alternatively a PPP'd / remapped wrx OP #10 I'd forget them choices and get one of these bad boys I've owned this for 4 Years now and it's the most fun i've ever had behind the wheel, only problem is they are rare (only about 350 were imported into the country) so there's not much to choose from, but the sound the engine makes is phenominal, listen to this vid of one with a unicorse replica exhaust I'd rather a GTV with the same engine but the insurance is plain nasty for some odd reason. Those little algae (autocorrect for alfas apparently) are brilliant - drove one when they were fairly new, took it out for ten minutes and ended up away for over an hour. Great noise, handles well enough (ignore top gear style views I had no problem) and I actually remember it riding quite well too. Being an Alfa it would be a pain in the arse to DIY when something goes wrong, plus are they even that cheap? I like both the civic and cupra R but tbh don't think I would buy either. If I could find a decent 330ci for your money that's what I would buy or alternatively a PPP'd / remapped wrx Again, quite like some of the Prodrive packed WRX's available but the insurance is excessive. #11 I assume you've not thought about the Clio Sports? I'd imagine a Trophy might even be possible in this budget? IMO, the Trohpy is one of the best hot hatches in this price range.
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